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By aphrael (Mon Oct 15, 2007 at 01:19:54 AM EST) (all tags)
After finishing my legal writing midterm, I took Jared to see the new "historical" drama. Elizabeth rocked, after all, so the sequel must be decent, right?

(Warning, for those not conversant with Tudor history: here there be spoilers).



It did some things well: its depiction of Elizabeth's despair at the prospect of executing Mary was pretty much spot on, and it did a good job of demonstrating both Elizabeth's loneliness and the sense of doom which rode on the heels of the armada. There was also one highly entertaining scene involving an inept archduke.

But ... otherwise the movie was dreadful. It failed it on three major grounds:

(a) long parts of it were tediously slow, frequently attempting to use overly dramatic music, instead of characterization, to build emotion.

(b) the story was incoherent, involving at least three different plots which were ineptly woven together, with characters appearing from out of nowhere to die shortly thereafter, seemingly minor characters appearing without warning in "important scenes", and important relationships between people being revealed later than they should be.

(c) it was wildly historically inaccurate. I could forgive their unreasonable depiction of Philip as being young and hale. I cannot forgive them moving the burning of the armada from the Dutch coast to the English one; the naval tactic which scattered the armada makes no sense whatsoever if the advancing fires aren't between the armada and its only means of escape.

Dreadful, I say. Dreadful.

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from the writer of by dr k (2.00 / 0) #1 Mon Oct 15, 2007 at 02:04:12 AM EST
First Knight and Firelight, and the writer of "The Tudors". Historical dramas are always a great risk for the viewer.

I was trying to watch Gangs of New York the other day. Either the DVD started to skip towards the end, or the director lost an argument with the studio, or maybe both. But not, as you say, dreadful.

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Historical accuracy. by Christopher Robin was Murdered (2.00 / 0) #6 Mon Oct 15, 2007 at 05:09:31 PM EST
If accuracy is a measure of these things, then Gangs completely fails on that count. It's some bizarre mix-and-match of random bits, and doesn't really make any effort to sort itself out. Characters from different time periods mixed together, entire neighborhoods that shouldn't exist, lots of curious things like that.

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history as a backdrop by dr k (2.00 / 0) #8 Mon Oct 15, 2007 at 05:43:34 PM EST
Truth is stranger than fiction, but fiction has better cinematography. Gangs should have been split into two parts, the first concluding with Amsterdam's revival of the Dead Rabbits. The second part should have followed a parallel story leading up to the Draft Riots, with the Bill/Amsterdam conflict as a background detail.

The long panning shot of the soldiers getting on the boat while coffins are unloaded should have been the opening shot of part two.

Elizabeth probably could use a similar treatment. Don't rely on the ensemble cast structure when you want to show another thread of a continuing story.

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They have a chance to redeem themselves. by chuckles (4.00 / 3) #2 Mon Oct 15, 2007 at 02:29:04 AM EST

I hear "The Rock" has signed on for "Elizabeth 3". That would be totally awesome.



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Please tell me by joh3n (2.00 / 0) #3 Mon Oct 15, 2007 at 07:49:03 AM EST
he plays Shakespeare!

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He plays Elizabeth. by Christopher Robin was Murdered (4.00 / 1) #7 Mon Oct 15, 2007 at 05:10:38 PM EST
n/t

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Could be by Troll Hard (2.00 / 0) #4 Mon Oct 15, 2007 at 08:28:36 AM EST
But the IMDB entry on The Rock doesn't list it.

He might star in Shazam!, Get Smart, or Witch Mountain.

I think he might play a good Black Adam in Shazam! or maybe Namor the Submariner if Marvel makes a movie on him.

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Thanks for the warning by Alan Crowe (2.00 / 0) #5 Mon Oct 15, 2007 at 03:12:23 PM EST
I've read Garret Mattingly's The Defeat of the Spanish Armada, and Neil Hanson's more recent telling of the tale: The Confident Hope Of A Miracle. Both good books.

So I'm interested enough to go and see the film and knowledgeable enough to be disappointed.



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