Space Station Dumps by Vulch (4.00 / 1) #3 Tue May 13, 2008 at 05:53:56 AM EST

Having a tanker of some sort going round the stations does make sense. You don't want to mess up your local environment with assorted organics, especially if you're a manufacturing plant of some sort. It's also a bugger getting the window cleaner round to clean the crap off the outside.

It's the equivalent of getting a tanker round to pump out your septic tank once in a while rather than just having the pipes having the outfall in the local stream. It might work for you, but the next house downstream isn't going to be happy.



Space is big by R Mutt (2.00 / 0) #4 Tue May 13, 2008 at 06:02:00 AM EST
And it'll dehydrate or freeze into a solid lump pretty quick. Just give it a little nudge and push it off somewhere a few thousand kilometrons out of the way.

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But the bits of it being used are fairly small by Vulch (4.00 / 1) #5 Tue May 13, 2008 at 06:11:32 AM EST

It's likely that the stations will be in clusters in particular orbits though, metal refineries supplying the nearby shipyards for instance, probably the equivalent of North Sea accomodation rigs near clusters of oil production rigs. Even with earth level space programmes there are problems with debris and they try really hard not to create anything that will hang around. By the time you've got enough space borne activity that you get 5000 survivors from an attack on each of 12 colony worlds (Just under 50k in Galactica's fleet, say 7K with Pegasus and a number of random ships) that's a lot of waste has to be dealt with.

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So have a garbage dump by R Mutt (2.00 / 0) #6 Tue May 13, 2008 at 06:30:55 AM EST
Sewage germs from a dump aren't going to cross-contaminate your air or water supply. On Earth when we process sewage that's what we care about, but in space it's not a problem.

Build up a big ball of crap somewhere and push your sewage towards it.

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There's the other reason ("Gaia"'s) by ambrosen (4.00 / 1) #7 Tue May 13, 2008 at 06:36:56 AM EST
You don't want to be wasting all that organic matter which you could be using somewhere else. After all, that's the reason that sewage exists in this earth.

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If it's that useful by R Mutt (2.00 / 0) #8 Tue May 13, 2008 at 06:56:12 AM EST
Why process it on an FTL spaceship?

If the stations need the processed output, why not have their own processing plant, especially if they are huge clusters like Vulch thinks.

Or if it's used on planets, just ship it to the planets in a standard freighter and process it there.

Why have the interstellar equivalent of a "sewage processing truck"?

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You're examining this too closely by Vulch (4.00 / 1) #9 Tue May 13, 2008 at 07:25:19 AM EST

Why have a Tylium ore processing ship with FTL capability? It would make more sense for it to be something fixed to the asteroid being mined. When the asteroid was exhausted you'd maybe move the refinery to a new one in several sections.

Why do so many of the transports previously used for hops between the colonies have living quarters for passengers when the journeys are relatively quick? The longest route seems to be about the same duration as a trip to New Zealand.

Why is the prison transport ship so big? A Raptor carries an FTL drive, with that you'd expect something more the size of a Group 4 truck.

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I assume FTL drives are expensive by R Mutt (2.00 / 0) #11 Tue May 13, 2008 at 07:49:57 AM EST
And from the last episode it seems a Raptor FTL drive is powerful enough to move a base star. So if you're not in the military, it's more cost-effective to stick a big spaceship on your expensive FTL drive.

An ore processing ship makes more sense. If the asteroids are small, you may have to move it around quite a lot: you don't want to have to keep disassembling and reassembling it every few days. Not sure what advantage it would give you to split it up into sections. On Earth you might want to split it up to truck it around more easily, but from the diversity of the fleet it seems that you can move pretty much any shape you like with ease.

And if you're only extracting a little Tylium from a large amount of ore, you don't want to have to lug all that ore back to a planet for processing. With sewage, presumably you want most or all of it.

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I thought they were using the Raptor for by wiredog (2.00 / 0) #12 Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:05:09 AM EST
navigation, and to control the Cylon FTL drive.

As to why Raptor's have FTL, they're scout ships.

Earth First!
(We can strip mine the rest later.)

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If FTL drives are expensive... by Vulch (4.00 / 1) #16 Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:35:00 AM EST

...Then you don't want to have them sitting around at all. You'd be more likely to build a very large frame with an FTL drive and conventional engines to move large things around and keep it working. Imagine something getting on for the size of Galactica but the shape of Thunderbird 2 without a pod.

The using a Raptor to jump a Basestar thing throws this comparison off a bit, but jet engines are expensive yet non-military users still build small airframes around them instead of everything being an A380. There aren't many 747s used on short haul flights, and just how many prisoners need to be transported to parole hearings at once anyway?

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Prison ship by ammoniacal (2.00 / 0) #24 Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:34:29 PM EST
I've put way too much thought into this and it seems apparent to me that the prison barge is simply a freighter of sorts which has been converted to prison duty. It's best for the operational fleet to isolate the prisoners who can't be reformed immediately and to do it safely. Niven teaches us that all spacecraft are weapons, so keep the number of vulnerable ships to a minimum. Additionally, it's a great plot device.

Irony: ammo says it's time. Tom is blocked.
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We once looked by ana (4.00 / 3) #10 Tue May 13, 2008 at 07:32:31 AM EST
at deploying a science instrument on the outside of what became the international space station. Like the shuttle, it's really a very dirty environment, with stuff going over the side all the time, plating out on whatever cold surfaces it finds (like detectors). Some kind of garbage control is really a necessity.

"And this ... is a piece of Synergy." --Kellnerin
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Space is dark. by wiredog (4.00 / 1) #13 Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:05:50 AM EST


Earth First!
(We can strip mine the rest later.)

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Not in a solar system by R Mutt (2.00 / 0) #14 Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:20:36 AM EST
Also, there's DRADIS; and presumably shipping lanes and buoys and space traffic controllers if things are as crowded as Vulch thinks. Can't be that hard to avoid crashing into the space-midden.

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whoosh by wiredog (4.00 / 1) #15 Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:31:52 AM EST
Makes "hand swooshing over head sign".
Space is big
Space is Dark
It's hard to find
A place to park


Earth First!
(We can strip mine the rest later.)

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Never heard of that by R Mutt (2.00 / 0) #17 Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:38:53 AM EST
It's a USian thing by wiredog (4.00 / 1) #19 Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:34:56 AM EST
Burma-shave ads.

Earth First!
(We can strip mine the rest later.)

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