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oh shoot, this is in the diary area! by gzt (2.00 / 0) #9 Mon May 12, 2008 at 03:24:24 PM EST

we may be burned for heresy for asserting in a google-able environment that LOTR isn't the greatest set of movies ever. To their credit, they were a lot better than most of what comes out, but that's more an indictment of the others than a compliment.

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Yeah. by nightflameblue (4.00 / 1) #10 Mon May 12, 2008 at 03:55:57 PM EST

LOTR - I'm glad I saw them, but kept wondering why I liked those books so damn much. Because the movies sure make the story seem boring, boring, BORING.

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to me, they were a little boring by gzt (2.00 / 0) #11 Mon May 12, 2008 at 04:20:59 PM EST

but I have/had a long attention span (I couldn't stand them anymore, however, since I just can't sit for that long these days), so that wasn't such a problem. the aesthetic choices just got to me, though. for some people, they masked and made up for the boringness, the overwrought/poor acting, etc, but to me they were cliched and overdone in a way that highlighted the other crap. the entire Moria thing (including the scene after the disappearance of Gandalf) is emblematic, to me, of what is wrong with the movie. lots of cliches!

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I have a hard time remembering much of them. by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #12 Mon May 12, 2008 at 04:48:52 PM EST

I liked little bits and pieces, but there was a lot of nothing in between the bits I enjoyed from what I do remember. I remember being excited for each new movie, then sitting through most of it wondering exactly WHY I had been so excited.

The aesthetic choices to me were just part of the problem. Grating in their blandness and boringness. Same as everything else. Here's the grey forest. Here's the grey castle. Here's the really REALLY different BLACK castle. Then that other grey castle. Then the dark grey cave. And the tan-grey plains. Bleh.

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and overexaggeration of the greyness. by gzt (2.00 / 0) #13 Mon May 12, 2008 at 04:58:24 PM EST

Here's the biggest, darkest, muddiest castle ever. Here's the biggest, darkest, muddiest cave city ever. Here's the biggest, darkest, muddiest army ever fighting the biggest, darkest, muddiest battle ever (until the next army and the next battle, those are bigger)...

I mean, come on. I realize they're fighting for the future of all existence and what-have-you, but do they always have to muster 50,000 orcs (the biggest, darkest, muddiest creatures ever)?

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: That last sentence. . . by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #14 Mon May 12, 2008 at 05:02:59 PM EST

I didn't so much mind them always mustering 50,000 orcs and having them all dark and muddy. What bothered me is the books always made me think there'd be this huge mass of dark forboding fighting against this rising sea of clashing colors from all the armies coming together to fight against them. Instead, we got the orcs, and then huge masses of very, very muted colors that made them look like they were all the same, just with slightly different patterns of grey.

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Cutting out the climax of each of the story arcs by jxg (2.00 / 0) #17 Tue May 13, 2008 at 12:53:36 AM EST

will do that to a series.

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At last, a REAL argument. by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #18 Tue May 13, 2008 at 01:05:45 AM EST

You said "climax." Heheheh.

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Care for a stump grinding? by jxg (2.00 / 0) #19 Tue May 13, 2008 at 02:48:11 AM EST

I offer 24-hour emergency servicing.

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: Not just "stump grinding" by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #20 Tue May 13, 2008 at 07:47:15 AM EST

but "track stump grinding," which somehow sounds dirtier, even though it isn't.

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